FastForward Radio, Episode 15

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Next Phil and Stephen discuss what it takes to be a Transhumanist. Do you really have to be an atheist? Can we have both God and The Singularity? And don't miss our survey results.
Then Phil and Stephen discussed personal freedom in the contexts of both genetic engineering and fab labs - the fab labs that can replicate themselves, and those that are big enough to print a house. Can we protect intellectual property while maximizing creativity?
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And here are some earlier episodes of FastForward Radio:
- FastForward Radio, Episode 14
- FastForward Radio, Episode 13
- FastForward Radio, Episode 12
- FastForward Radio, Episode 11
- FastForward Radio, Episode 10
- FastForward Radio, Episode 9
- FastForward Radio, Episode 8
- FastForward Radio, Episode 7
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Comments
Regarding your latest podcast and your argument that you have to be an aetheist to believe intelligence is part of the "meat" of a body, I'm not sure I agree.
Think of the difference between "hardware" and "software." Clearly, much of the body's ability to react and "do" is based on its hardware. If I sever your spine, I sever your ability to move your legs. No "soul" was cut, just your nerve tissue. Likewise, if I damage your brain, I'll damage your cognitive ability, just like damaging a processor in a computer damages it's ability to run programs.
But this is seperate from "mind" or "soul," or "software." The ability to be "concious," the "little person inside my head that sees what my eyes see and hear what my ears here" isn't, a soul-believer might argue, a function of my meat, but a function of my spirit.
But this has no bearing on "intelligence." If you can augment my mind, I can cognate faster, just like if you upgrade my processor, my Windows runs more smoothly.
What Singularity argues is that we can augment processor speed, not that you can augment consciousness.
It might well be that conciousness IS a function of electro-chemical processes in the brain, but I don't think that belief is necessary to believe in singularity.
Posted by: Vadept
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May 7, 2007 10:33 PM
V:
Actually it wasn't Phil or I who suggested that one needs to be an atheist "to believe intelligence is part of the "meat" of a body."
That was the suggestion of our friend Michael Anissimov.
Phil and I disagreed with that idea because we both believe in God but we also understand that who we are is a product of the material stuff in our heads.
I've seen first-hand what happens to the spirit of a person when the brain deteriorates - with Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease. The light slowly fades. It's not that they are "in there" fighting to get out like in the movie Awakenings. A late stage Alzheimer's patient is gone in spirit while still present physically. This is why the disease is so hard on the family going through it.
What Singularity argues is that we can augment processor speed, not that you can augment consciousness.
I suppose that would depend on how you define consciousness. Hmmm. I'll have to think about that.
:-)
Posted by: Stephen Gordon
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May 8, 2007 05:16 AM