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October 29, 2004


Amazing Exponentials, The Speech

By popular demand (well, Stephen asked for it, and he's a popular guy) here's the text of my recent speech, which expands on the ideas presented in the original exponentials post.

Mr. Toastmaster, my fellow Toastmasters and guests, our story begins with the invention of a game called Chaturanga in India some 1400 years ago. Chaturanga is the precursor to the game we call chess; it's played on a board similar to the one used today for chess, checkers, and backgammon. The ruling prince of the region where the game was developed was so taken with Chaturanga that he summoned the game's inventor and offered to reward him for his genius.

Now the man who invented Chaturanga was, indeed, a genius. He asked the prince that he be given only a very modest reward. Just one grain of rice placed in the first square of the Chaturanga board. That's all. Oh, and then two grains of rice in the second square and four in the third and eight in the fifth and so on, doubling until all 64 squares were filled.

Well, the prince was pretty shocked that his subject should ask for such a paltry reward, but he felt he had to comply. So he dispatched one of his stewards to fulfill the order. It took the steward a while to report back, and when he did the news was not good. Although harvest was just completed, the gift was going to completely exhaust the royal granaries. And they were only on the 40th square!

In fact, it turns out that if you were to keep doubling until you reached the 64th square, you would have an amount of rice greater than the total yield of every rice crop in the history of the planet earth. The inventor of Chaturanga had trapped the prince with what mathematicians call a geometric progression. As we follow the progress of the rice as it doubles with each step, we're witnessing what's called an exponential increase.

As the example with the rice grains shows, any time we witness an exponential increase, we're in for quite a show. Things start out small and get crazy really quickly. Let's look at a few exponential trends that are unfolding in our world today. (My first three examples come from an article by Rodney Brooks that appeared recently in MIT Technology Review.)

We'll start with what the computer industry calls Moore's Law. In 1965, Gordon Moore, one of the co-founders of Intel, observed that the size of each transistor on a computer chip is cut in half every two years. When the transistors get smaller, they get faster. Plus you can fit more of them on a chip. This means that computer processing power is increasing exponentially -- basically quadrupling every 24 months. Over the past 40 years, Moore's Law has proved to be amazingly accurate. We have seen exactly the increase in processing power that Moore predicted.

So where will that take us? If processing power keeps quadrupling, we will eventually have computers with the same processing power as the human brain. I remember when I was in college, one of my professors explained that if a computer were ever built to match the human brain, it would occupy a building 180 stories high and require enough electricity to power a large city. Now they're talking about computers with that kind of processing capability sitting on desktops. Within the next few years! And if Moore's Law holds out, we'll be seeing computers with many times that power shortly thereafter.

Personally, I hope that prediction is accurate. If it is, I'm going to get one those computers, teach it how to do my job, and go fishing. Talk about outsourcing.

But maybe thinking computers are a kind of spooky example. Let's look at computer storage. This is my iPod. It holds 20 gigabytes of memory, or about 500 songs. Last year's model could hold only 10 gigabytes, about 250 songs. If I were using my iPod to hold text rather than music, it could hold about 20,000 books. And at the rate its capacity is growing, by the year 2020 my little iPod could hold the entire Library of Congress - text, graphics, everything.

Imagine what life will be like for a college student in the year 2020. Imagine what it will be like for a first grader! This thing is smaller and lighter than any single textbook any of us ever had to lug to school. Let me pass it around. Imagine holding virtually all human knowledge in the palm of your hand.

Of course, not all exponential developments are related to computers. The cost of sequencing DNA is diminishing exponentially. By next year, the cost of sequencing one person's genome, one person's individual genetic code, is going to be only one cent per base pair of genes. In 1990, it was $10 dollars per base pair. At that rate, by the year 2020, sequencing a person's 3.2 billion base pairs will cost only $32,000. Within a few years after that, sequencing your entire genetic code will be no more expensive than, say, having a simple blood test done. Imagine how much more effective medical treatments will be when doctors are able to understand our bodies down to the molecular level.

So super-smart computers and portable libraries and advanced medical treatments are all very well, but how are we going to pay for all this stuff? Economist Robin Hanson made an interesting observation a while back, one that I referred to in the Inspiration talk I gave around Labor day. What the economists call Total World Product - the average wealth per person times the number of people - has grown exponentially over the last century, doubling about every fifteen years. That means it's increasing about sixty times faster than it did before the Industrial Revolution. And the transition isn't over yet. It won't be long before the world's total wealth doubles every six years. And if it keeps up, eventually, every year. Hanson goes even further than that, demonstrating that (if the trend holds) we will one day see total global wealth doubling every week. That one is pretty hard to picture, isn't it?

So if we want to be healthy, wealthy, and wise it would appear that all we have to do is sit back and let the exponentials do the work. Of course, nothing is ever quite as simple as that. I'm reminded of the story of the New York city planner who, in the 1890's published a report that included dire predictions of a coming ecological disaster for the city. Looking at the current growth numbers of the day, he predicted that the city would be uninhabitable within fifty years. What's interesting is that his population predictions were pretty accurate. What he got wrong was his prediction that, by 1950, Manhattan would be three stories deep in horse manure.

Guess he just didn't see that whole "car" thing coming.

On a similar note, you may be wondering whatever became of the man who invented Chaturanga. Well, there are two versions of the story. One says that the prince was so impressed by the man's wisdom that he made him his most trusted advisor, and as a result the man got to live the rest of his life amid great pomp and splendor. The other version says that the prince got annoyed and had him beheaded for being a wise guy.

Let that be a lesson to us all. When we base predictions of the future on extrapolations of current trends, we stand to gain tremendous insights into the world that's coming. But at the same time, we risk putting our heads on the chopping block. Or worse yet, we run the risk of peddling thousands of tons of imaginary horse sh... er, manure.

It's a fine line. So be warned.

Thank you very much.


ITF #156

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In the Future...

..robots will be polite, and know how to play a wide variety of party
games.

 

Futurist: M104 member Robert Hinkley.


Brain Prosthesis: Self-Serving or Self-Sacrificing?

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Phil has linked to and commented on several stories in the last couple of days that have a common theme:

Even though most of these treatments would only be used on diseased or injured brains, some ethical issues must be considered.

If a patient has a stroke that damages a portion of her brain, will she remain the same person if she is treated with a brain prosthesis or brain tissue transplant?

Objectively there is little to argue about. If my family member has suffered a stroke and can't speak or take care of herself, and if a brain tissue transplant could reverse that, then the post-op person is more like the person I knew before the stroke.

But what is the subjective experience of the patient? Is her personhood violated by the treatment? Certainly the stoke or neurodegenerative disease violated the patient first. But there are many instances in medicine where doctors choose not to treat rather than risk additional harm.

This problem is akin to issues science fiction fans have discussed for years. If my memories and personality are copied into a computer or into another body, have I, personally, been moved? Am I live or Memorex?

Or if the "transporter" from Star Trek can take apart my atoms, transport them through space, and reassemble me perfectly on some alien world, is that still me? Maybe. But, what if - as Star Trek suggests - only the digital information of my pattern is transported. My actual atoms are left behind to replicate Hot Earl Grey tea or something. Is that still me?

I don't know, but I certainly understand Dr. McCoy's aversion to the transporter.

The ethical problem with brain prosthesis and tissue replacement is different from these fictional dilemmas only in degree. A brain prosthesis or tissue transplant might simply be thought of as an aid for the remaining brain, but it just as logically could be said to be "new brain." Where exactly does "self" reside? Does "self" remain in the damaged brain that the prosthesis or new tissue is aiding, or is it within the "new brain?" Could it be a both?

There is no easy answer to that. But I know that if I had a stroke and was told that the only way I could walk again or speak would be to undergo a such a procedure, I'm sure I'd agree to the treatment.

This seems to be the best solution to the problem. Our decisions have an impact on who we are anyway, so there seems little reason to question a patient's decision regarding such care - provided they are capable of making the decision.

Obviously someone will have to judge whether the patient is capable of understanding the treatment and making the decision. Should that be the doctor or the family? Its time to update my living will forms.

October 28, 2004


Tiny Humans

When exactly did the Third Age of Middle Earth end?

SCIENTISTS who announced yesterday they had discovered a new human species suspect the "hobbits" could have lived as recently as 500 years ago.

Experts from two NSW universities told how finding the dwarf-like skeleton in a remote cave on the Indonesian island of Flores was just the tip of the iceberg.

They hope to continue digging in other parts of the island -- and prove some of the species survived until the 1500s, when Dutch explorers settled in the area.

If the theory is proved correct, it would mean the 1m-tall hobbit -- scientifically known as homo floresiensis -- interacted with modern-day man, until it eventually died out.

"Could they have persisted somewhere else on the island? Yes, they could have done," Professor Bert Roberts of Wollongong University asked.

Any chance that somewhere in the 10,000 islands one or two of these creatures might still survive?

October 27, 2004


Stillness Part V, Chapter 51

Raymond dropped a paper sack containing his belongings by the front door. Six more such bags were lined up there. He wandered into the common room, where some of the children were sitting around the television, watching more coverage of the Phenomenon.

He plopped down on the big gray sofa next to Lucinda.

“Well, I did it,” he said. “Okay? But I still don’t think it makes any sense.”

“Thank you,” said the younger girl.

“What time is it, anyway? Are we going to have dinner?”

Bettina, who was sitting on the floor in front of the TV, turned to look at him.

“There’s some soup on the stove,” she said. “We already ate.”

“What kind of soup?”

“Tomato,” several voices offered at once.

Raymond sighed.

“I don’t want yucky tomato. Is there any tuna fish?”

“Plenty,” said Lucinda. “And there’s Miracle Whip and celery and sweet relish in the fridge if you want to make tuna salad. But we’re out of bread.”

Raymond grunted with disgust.

“No bread? How am I supposed to eat it if there’s no bread?”

“You could have it al fresco,” said Lucinda.

Al fresco? Eat tuna fish right out of the bowl? Mi scusi, no.

“Are there any crackers left?” asked Lucinda.

“Not the big ones,” said Bettina. “Just oyster crackers.”

“Doesn’t matter,” said Raymond. “Tuna fish on crackers would be double-yuck. Possibly triple. Does anybody have any money?”

Robert, who was sitting next to Bettina turned up from the book he was reading.

“I have two dollars and some change,” he said. He thought for a moment. “Forty-seven cents,” he added.

Molto bene! Benissimo!,” said Raymond.

“Let’s drop the Italian,” said Lucinda.

“You started it. Robert, how about you and I take a stroll to the market for some bread?”

“The market is closed,” said Bettina. “It’s after eight.”

“So? We could go to the Super King. It stays open until at least eleven.”

Lucinda laughed.

“Don’t be ridiculous. The super King is at least a mile and half from here. If you’re that hungry, why not open a can of Chicken and Stars?”

“Quadruple, quintuple, sextuple, etc., ad infinitum, yuck.”

“I thought you liked soup,” said Bettina.

Raymond nodded.

“I do. I like vegetable beef and beanie-weenie. Anyway, a mile and half isn’t so far. It’s only bad if you have to walk it.”

Robert looked puzzled.

“What choice do you have besides walking? Are you thinking about taking the bus? I don’t think $2.47 will get you there and back in a cab, not if you plan to buy a loaf of bread.”

“Yeah, Rob, but think — why take a bus or cab when we have a perfectly serviceable vehicle just sitting out back not doing anybody any good?”

Bettina gasped.

“You’re kidding, right?” she said.

“I am not. Now that we’re in charge around here, we have to make use of what we’ve got. The car is part of the home. If we need bread, I say we take it to get some bread.”

Estelle, who had been sitting quietly in the little brown chair, apparently paying more attention to her elaborate needlepoint project than to the conversation, now looked up.

But he answered and said, ‘It is written, man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God’.

Raymond shook his head.

“Estelle, I know you have a limited repertoire and all, but that is really beside the point.”

She glared at him.

Pride goeth before destruction,” she said. “And an haughty spirit before a fall.

“I do not have an haughty spirit. I just want a stupid sandwich. Besides, where did that come from? I thought you could just do New Testament.”

“No,” said Lucinda. “The Bible that she and…that she was reading had the Psalms and Proverbs as well.”

“Oh. Well, that’s good,” said Raymond. “I guess it’s too bad it wasn’t the whole thing.”

Estelle nodded.

“It’s all right,” said Lucinda. “I’m sure Corey will figure out how to fix things eventually.”

“That’s right,” Raymond agreed. “And if he can’t, Todd and Judy will. Or even Lucy-Lu, here.”

Lucinda smiled at the use of Grace’s pet name for her.

“Everything will be fine,” she said.

Estelle nodded again.

“Exactly,” said Raymond. “And meanwhile, life goes on. So what do you say, Robert? Do you want to go for a little drive?”

“That is out of the question,” said Lucinda.

“Why?”

“First, you don’t know how to drive. Second, you do not have a driver’s license, and the station wagon is not insured for anything that might happen while you’re driving it. Third, and most importantly, you don’t have the keys.”

Raymond smiled.

“Your first point is incorrect. Even before Corey started helping me out — but certainly since then — I have paid very close attention whenever I watched…somebody…anybody…drive. I know everything there is to know about how to operate that car. Your second point is entirely irrelevant. If we’re going to get all sticky about legal technicalities, we should be on the phone with the police and social services right now. We should just turn ourselves in. Right?”

He stood up.

“As for your third point,” he said, reaching into his pocket, “looky here what I found.”

He held up the keys to the car.

Lucinda stood up.

“Where did you get those?” she asked.

“Hanging on a hook in the pantry. Right where they’ve always been, for those of us who were paying attention.”

“Give them to me, Raymond.”

“I don’t think so. I’m going for a drive.”

“Come on, Ray,” said Bettina. “You know you’re not supposed to drive the car.”

“Who says I’m not? Todd? Judy? I’ve already waited here for them all day and packed my bag like a good little soldier. They don’t tell me what to do. Nobody does. I’m the oldest person here.”

“Nobody’s telling you what to do, Raymond,” said Lucinda. “But be reasonable. Taking the car out would subject you and the rest of us to a needless risk. As you pointed out, we aren’t calling the police and announcing ourselves to them. Why engage in activities that risk exposing us to them?”

“I don’t see that there’s any risk. I’ll drive carefully. Teenagers drive all over this town all the time. Nobody knows me, so nobody knows that I’m underage.”

“Ray, I don’t like waiting here any more than you do,” said Bettina. “I think it’s unfair that Todd and Judy and Lucinda make their plans and don’t tell us what’s happening. But for now we have to wait here. We all need to stick together.”

“I’ll be back in half an hour. Less. Rob, are you coming with me?”

Robert, who had returned to his book, seeming to take no particular interest in the entire exchange, looked up again.

“Is there anything I or anyone else can say that will talk you out of this lunacy?”

Raymond shook his head.

“I just want a sandwich,” he said.

“All right,” said Robert, closing his book. “I’ll go with you.”

Robert,” said Lucinda, “you must be joking. You know this is crazy.”

“I don’t think it’s a good idea, no. None of us should be venturing out of the house right now. But if we are going to do it, we certainly shouldn’t be doing it alone.”

“Raymond,” said Lucinda, “what is the matter with you? Why do you want to drag Robert into this?”

Raymond put the keys in his pocket.

“I don’t know, I guess being brought back from the dead makes me hungry. You’re all making a mountain out of a molehill. Come on, Rob.”

He started towards the kitchen and the back door. Lucinda looked at Robert.

“Don’t go,” she said.

Robert put his book down and stood up.

“I’ll try to keep him out of trouble,” he said.

___

Raymond turned the key in the ignition and touched his foot to the gas pedal. The engine started. He stepped on the accelerator to rev it just slightly and keep it from dying cold. He was certain he had seen this done many times, and it was a bit unsettling to observe that he couldn’t remember who he had seen do it.

He knew that it was important to rev the motor for a while before putting the old green station wagon in gear. He used the time to adjust the rear and side mirrors to his liking. This proved more difficult than he had expected; it wasn’t obvious to him exactly what should be framed in his backward views. He concluded that it would become clear in the process of driving, and he would have to make some adjustments along the way. This was not the first time he had been in the driver’s seat — he had practiced many times in the past. It was, however, the first time he had ever needed to reach the pedals and have a good grip on the steering wheel and look out the windshield and see what was happening behind the car all at the same time. More importantly, it was the first time he had ever been there with the engine running.

He turned and looked at Robert.

“Let’s skip the radio this time, okay?”

Robert nodded.

“You probably don’t need the distraction,” he said.

“That’s for sure.”

In the past, there had been many prolonged discussions (often extending far beyond the actual duration of the trip) about what should or should not be played on the car radio.

“See?” said Raymond. “No girls, no problems.”

Robert shook his head.

“I think the boys argue about the radio as much as the girls,” he said.

Raymond sighed, annoyed. He put his foot on the brake and took hold of the gear shift, which extended from the steering column. He pulled down on it, finding that he had to apply more force than he would have expected. The motion was not as fluid as he had imagined.

“Having trouble?” asked Robert.

“No. It feels different than it looks, that’s all.”

“Yeah.”

Raymond moved his foot from the brake to the accelerator. The car began backing out of the driveway. He turned the wheel, slightly at first, angling the car more sharply as he backed it into the alley. He hit the brake abruptly.

“You’ll want to watch out for that telephone pole,” said Robert.

“No kidding. I have to get used to the feel of the steering. It takes a minute.”

“That’s okay. You learn fast.”

Raymond put the car into drive and started very slowly down the alley.

“Headlights,” said Robert.

“I know,” Raymond answered, annoyed. He found the switch and turned them on. The alley lit up before them.

“I think that’s the high-beam setting,” said Robert.

Raymond sighed with exasperation. He stopped the car and began looking around the dashboard. He fiddled with the light switch, but that didn’t do anything.

“I’m pretty sure it’s a button on the floor,” said Robert. “You push it with your foot.”

Raymond explored the floorboard with his foot. Finding nothing, he scooted himself forward in the driver’s seat and tried again. He found the button. The alley suddenly went dim.

“Good,” said Robert. “See what I mean? You learn fast.”

Raymond grinned.

“Say, Rob, how come we never did this before?”

“Because you never went crazy and stole the car before.”

Raymond brought the car to a stop as they reached the end of the alley. The street was dark and utterly deserted.

“No, not that. You know what I mean. How come we never did anything together?”

“I don’t know. Maybe we did and we don’t remember. Or maybe it’s because we only became friends after Corey showed up.”

Raymond nodded.

“That’s true,” he said, “but I think there’s something else.”

“Yeah,” the younger boy agreed. “There was something else. We didn’t spend much time together because we were busy spending time with other people.”

“I wish I could remember something. Anything. It’s like I want to miss them, but I can’t even remember what there is to miss.”

“I know. But maybe it’s like with Estelle. Maybe Corey can fix it.”

“Do you really think he can?”

Robert shrugged.

“I’m not sure. But he’s a fast learner, too.”

Raymond slowly drove the car out into the empty street.

“Can I ask you something?” said Robert.

“Shoot.”

“What was it like?”

Raymond didn’t look over. He kept driving, his eyes fixed straight ahead.

“Being dead, you mean?” he said after a moment.

Robert nodded.

“I don’t remember.”

They rode along in silence for a while.

“I hope I never do,” he added.

___

“We can afford it. It’s only 35 cents,” said Raymond.

The boys stood in the only open check-out lane, behind a couple buying three cartloads of canned food. There had been warnings on TV all day that hoarding of food wouldn’t be tolerated, but apparently the manager of the Super King wasn’t watching. The shelves of the supermarket were well picked-over. Raymond had grabbed one of the last few loaves of bread.

Robert shook his head.

“You’re forgetting about the State sales tax. Six percent.”

“I’m not forgetting. It doesn’t apply to the groceries; only to the comic book.”

“What about the candy bar?”

Raymond shook his head, looking at the contents of the red shopping basket.

“Bread, orange juice, Hershey bar…all groceries. Comic book, six percent sales tax.”

“I don’t see why I have to spend all my money.”

“Come on, Rob. I’ll pay you back. I want to give the comic to Grace to make up for the other one. See, it’s a funny one with Forest Critters.”

Robert sighed. He picked up the comic, studied the cover for a moment, and tossed it back in the basket.

“And the chocolate?” he asked.

“Estelle likes chocolate.”

“So what? Everybody likes chocolate.”

“Come on, be nice. She can’t talk.”

“She can talk fine.”

“You know what I mean, Rob.”

After paying for their purchases, the boys made their way out of the store and back to the car.

“Do you notice anything?” Robert asked as Raymond turned the ignition.

“What?”

“Look at the parking lot.”

“I don’t see anything.”

“Exactly. No cars. Wasn’t there something on TV earlier about a curfew?”

Raymond cleared his throat.

“Well, that’s nothing to worry about. We’re going home right now.”

He pulled the car out into the street. Two blocks later, they reached a barricade with a squad car parked in front of it.

“Great,” said Robert.

Raymond looked around nervously.

“Should I back up?”

“Only if you’re absolutely sure you want to go to jail.”

A police officer stepped out of the car and started towards them. He was carrying a large flashlight.

“I think I know him,” said Robert.

“Just shut up and let me do the talking,” said Raymond.

Robert nodded.

Raymond rolled down the window as the officer approached.

“Good evening, officer,” he said.

“Where do you boys think you’re going?”

“Home. Ma sent us out to the Super King and we were supposed to be home before curfew. I guess we’re running late.”

“I guess you are.” He shined his flashlight directly in Raymond’s face, studying the boy for a moment. The he turned the beam on Robert.

“Where did you boys say you lived?”

Raymond pointed toward the barricade.

“Just a few more blocks down.”

The officer nodded.

“You live in that home for slow kids, don’t you?”

Raymond guffawed.

What? No sir. We don’t.”

“Sure you do. I remember you. Both of you.”

He turned the flashlight to Robert.

“You. You were okay. One of the few who didn’t really get hurt.”

He aimed the beam back at Raymond.

“But you. They messed you up. Bad.”

“Look, officer, I really don’t have any idea —”

“Uh huh. They messed you up. Ants it was, they said. But it didn’t look like any ant bites I ever saw.”

The officer looked up and waved at the squad car. The headlights flashed in response. He bent back down to look in the car.

“You’re looking much better now, son. You must heal up pretty fast.”

“Ah, yes, I do. Look, sir, we’d really just like to get home.”

The policeman shook his head.

“Sorry, boys. They told us to look out for anything unusual. I’d say a couple of retarded kids driving down the street qualifies .”

He turned off the flashlight.

“Especially when one of them’s been dead for a couple of days.”


Amazing Exponentials, Part 2

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A mere 29 days ago IBM announced that it's Blue Gene/L system was the world's fastest computer capable of a sustained speed of 36.01 teraflops (a teraflop is a trillion calculations per second).

Yesterday, NASA announced that its Project Columbia Beowulf cluster achieved a sustained performance of 42.7 teraflops. The $50 million dollar system will be used "to speed up spacecraft design, environmental prediction and other research."

Remarkably, this system was built in only 120 days.

This rivalry isn't over yet. Neither Blue Gene nor Project Columbia is operating at its top theoretical speed. Only 16 of Project Columbia's 20 computer units were operational at the time it was tested.


ITF #155

In the Future...

...many students taking their SATs will attach batteries to their heads.


Brain Juice

This is interesting. Perhaps a stop-gap solution before full-blown brain prosthetics become commerically available:

Connecting a battery across the front of the head (the prefrontal cortex) can boost verbal skills, says a team from the US National Institutes of Health.

A current of two milliamperes applied for 20 minutes is enough to produce a significant improvement, they found.


Ho Hum

Nothing to be alarmed about, folks. Just another one of those monkeys-controlling-robots-with-their-brains stories. No big deal. Happens all the time.

Move along, now.

October 26, 2004


Amazing Exponentials

It all started with Moore's Law. Actually, that isn't remotely accurate. Indications are that it all started with the Big Bang. But Moore's Law is such a handy example of my topic — exponential growth — that I'm going to start there. Kurzweil tells us that Moore's Law

is the prediction that the size of each transistor on an integrated circuit chip will be reduced by 50 percent every twenty-four months. The result is the exponentially growing power of integrated circuit-based computation over time. Moore's Law doubles the number of components on a chip as well as the speed of each component. Both of these aspects double the power of computing, for an effective quadrupling of the power of computation every twenty-four months.

Interesting. But where does all this exponential doubling of computational ability get us? Depends who you ask. There are those who say that it will lead us to nothing less than a new era in human history. But that's a topic for a few dozen other essays on another day. Anyway, as detailed recently in Technology Review, there are many other good examples of technologies that are growing exponentially.

Storage leaps to mind. In 2003, a $400 iPod had 10 gigabytes of memory. By early this year, a $400 iPod had 20 gigabytes of memory. If this annual doubling holds up, then 20 years from now we’ll have portable devices with 20 petabytes of storage—that’s 20 million gigabytes—sitting in our pockets. What might we want to do with all that storage, and what new services might it enable?

The iPod is now big enough to contain the entire personal music collection of today’s average listener. But the immediate consequence of storage growth is that our personal music collections will grow as well. CDs will no longer be a practical way to distribute content; they will go the way of wax cylinders and vinyl platters. That’s why so many companies are rushing in to follow Apple in the music content download and management business.

And consider how iPods might play into one of our favorite scenarios:

Today’s iPod could store 20,000 books. That’s more than most people would read in a lifetime. But just 10 years from now, an iPod might be able to hold 20 million books—more than are in Harvard University’s collection. (If you insist on having the pictures and diagrams in those books, too, perhaps you have to wait until 2017. By then you’ll be able to carry around the complete text for all the volumes in the Library of Congress.) To complete this vision, of course, we’ll need a lightweight, easy-to-read screen to display text. And we’ll need technologies that allow for rapidly digitizing millions of books and other documents, and for extracting text without errors, so the books are searchable.

Of course, not all exponential developments are related to computers:

Finally, the cost of sequencing DNA is diminishing exponentially. By next year, the cost of sequencing a person’s genome is expected to be a mere penny per base pair. Compare that to the $10 it cost in 1990. At that rate, sequencing a person’s 3.2 billion base pairs should cost only $32,000 by 2020. As a practical matter, it’s only necessary to look at 10 million base pairs to cover all the variations in the human genome. Sequencing this number—in order to determine a person’s genetic fingerprint and disease susceptibility—would cost only about one dollar by sometime in the 2020s.

It's likely that gene-based treatments for disease will also increase rapidly, if not exponentially, in line with this drop in price. And speaking of money, economist Robin Hanson has made an interesting observation:

Economists’ best estimates of total world product (average wealth per person times the number of people) show it to have been growing exponentially over the last century, doubling about every fifteen years, or about sixty times faster than under farming. And a model of the whole time series as a transition from a farming exponential mode to an industry exponential mode suggests that the transition is not over yet - we are slowly approaching a real industry doubling time of about six years, or one hundred and fifty times the farming growth rate.

So if we want to be healthy, wealthy, and wise it would appear that all we have to do is sit back and let the exponentials do the work. Of course, nothing is ever quite as simple as that. I'm reminded of the tale (possibly apocryphal) of the New York city planner who, in the 1890's published a report that included dire predictions of a coming ecological disaster for the city. Looking at then-current growth numbers, he predicted that the city would be uninhabitable within fifty years. Interestingly, his population predictions were pretty accurate. What he got wrong was his prediction that, by 1950, Manhattan would be three stories deep in horse manure.

Guess he just didn't see that whole "car" thing coming.

Let that be a lesson to us all. When we base predictions of the future on extrapolations of current trends, we can gain tremendous insights into the world that's coming. Or we may end up peddling thousands of tons of imaginary horse manure. It's a fine line.


The Ultimate Poker Face Challenge

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Phil and I have been talking about poker...and AIs playing poker...at Beyond Words: Poker and Patriotism. Because we are Speculists, after all, we're beyond the Data Playing Poker with Picard and Wanting to Be More Human stage of this concept. If AIs were playing AIs, how would they bluff? What would be the "tells?" Would there be some artifact, not a human-mimicking trait, that would develop? Talk amongst yourselves...

Better yet, you can practice with Jared the Poker Robot!

October 25, 2004


The Brain Fix

This very big story broke late last week:

The world’s first brain prosthesis has passed the first stages of live testing.

The microchip, designed to model a part of the brain called the hippocampus, has been used successfully to replace a neural circuit in slices of rat brain tissue kept alive in a dish. The prosthesis will soon be ready for testing in animals.

The device could ultimately be used to replace damaged brain tissue which may have been destroyed in an accident, during a stroke, or by neurodegenerative conditions such as Alzheimer’s disease. It is the first attempt to replace central brain regions dealing with cognitive functions such as learning or speech.

In addition to treating degenerative conditions, brain prostheses will eventually be used to enhance learning and skills for everyone. I'm personally looking forward to the hardware upgrade that will make me able to play the piano or speak Italian.


ITF #2

In the Future...

...you will need to show a photo ID in order to buy batteries or a quart of milk.


via White Rose


Originally published July 22, 2003.


What Should Have Been

ScrappleFace is usually pretty amusing, but this piece didn't strike me as being the least bit funny.

Evocative, yes.

Tragic, possibly.

Eloquent, undeniably.

But not funny. Have a glimpse of a world that should have been:

A little-known group of Islamic fundamentalists intended to hijack several airplanes and ram them into the buildings, causing untold devastation.

But thanks to the funding increases during the Clinton administration, the CIA had the resources to uncover the plot. It arrested several dozen men who currently await trial for conspiracy to attempt mass murder.

A spokesman in the CIA's New York office, located on the 99th floor of World Trade Center Two, said he his colleagues were "just doing what we're paid to do...provide reliable information to protect all Americans."

One issue I would take with Scott's scenario: in a world in which we were that on top of things ahead of time (under Clinton), it's not a foregone conclusion that Bush would now be President.


Originally published July 21, 2003.

Posted by Phil at July 21, 2003 11:10 AM | TrackBack
Original Comments

You're right, in that reality the Gore-bot probably would have won.

That that would mean that Clinton wouldn't have been an utter fuck up on foreign policy, and might have reeled in the excesses of the '90s boom a bit, before their predictably tragic results when the party was over.

The Boom was followed by a predictable crash, followed by what should have been a predicted 9/11: thereby confirming the fruits of the Clinton administration on both the foreign and domestic fronts.

It is sad to me that the pendulum swing inevitably went towards a John Ashcroft being the President's domestic Bulldog.

Posted by: David Mercer at July 21, 2003 08:28 PM

ITF #1

In the Future...

...it will be illegal for British teenagers to hold hands.


(via Gweilo Diaries, via Giles Ward)


Originally published July 21, 2003.


Remember This Day

July 20, 1969:

A human being sets foot on the surface of the moon, followed shortly by another. The significance of this event cannot be overstated. And it all happened so fast. Even in the fast-forward pace of human history, it had been only a blink of an eye since the invention of the airplane and the first flight.

Via Rand Simberg, an evocative quote from Arthur C. Clarke:

When the Saturn V soars spaceward on nearly four thousand tons of thrust, it signifies more than a triumph of technology. It opens the next chapter of evolution.

No wonder that the drama of a launch engages our emotions so deeply. The rising rocket appeals to instincts older than reason; the gulf it bridges is not only that between world and world but the deeper chasm between heart and brain.

There are a few folks out there who have not forgotten this day, who have some sense of the weight of it. Let's be among them, shall we?


Originally published July 20, 2003.


A BHAG for Nanotechnology

Far better to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory, nor defeat.
Theodore Roosevelt, 1899

In their book Built to Last, authors Jim Collins and Jerry I. Porras review the histories of 18 companies whose management style and underlying philosophy they have identified as being "visionary." The Roosevelt quote above leads off their chapter on goals. According to the authors, visionary companies set objectives that are grand and inspiring. They call these objectives Big Harry Audacious Goals, which they shorten with the nifty acronym BHAG (pronounced "bee-hag").

Collins and Porras cite a number of examples of BHAGs. An interesting example is the decision that Boeing made in 1952 to offer a jet aircraft to the commercial airline market. Fighting perceptions that their company was really a player only in the military market, and a pervading assumption that commercial aircraft would be propeller driven for the foreseeable future, the management of Boeing decided to put everything on the line and build a prototype commercial jet aircraft. The result was the 707, followed by the 727, the 737, and — somewhere along the line — a position of unshakeable dominance in the commercial airline market.

The authors contrast Boeing's performance with that of McDonnell-Douglas (part of a "control group" of non-visionary companies) during the same period. MD decided to play it safe and stick to their established market of propeller-driven aircraft. As a result of this decision, they were late entrants in the jet race and were never to catch up with Boeing.

According to Built To Last, the quintessential example of a BHAG is found not in the business world, but rather in the geopolitical arena: JFK's decision to send a man to the moon "before this decade is out."

President Kennedy and his advisers could have gone off into a conference room and drafted something like "Let's beef up our space program," or some other such vacuous statement. The most optimistic scientific assessment of the moon mission's chances for success in 1961 was fifty-fifty and most experts were, in fact, more pessimistic. Yet, nonetheless, Congress agreed (to the tune of an immediate $549 million and billions more in the following five years) with Kennedy's proclamation [.] Given the odds, such a bold commitment was, at the time, outrageous. But that's part of what made it such a powerful mechanism for getting the United States, still groggy from the 1950's and the Eisenhower era, moving vigorously forward.

Moreover, this BHAG is the reason that the U. S. was and is the only country ever to land a man on moon. Russia had a tremendous head start on us in the space race. And they had what may have been, overall, a better thought-out and more viable approach to exploring space. But they did not have a publicly decreed goal to make it to the moon by the end of the 1960's. And they never did make it. Where going to the moon is concerned, Russia will forever be McDonnell-Douglas to our Boeing.

Now I read where proponents of nanotechnology are looking for a BHAG of their own. Naturally, they take as their inspiration President Kennedy's commitment and the subsequent Apollo program. In the words of venture-capitalist Steve Jurvetsen:

"Whether conceptualized as a universal assembler, a nanoforge, or matter compiler, I think the ' moon-shot' goal for 2025 should be the realization of the digital control of matter, and all the ancillary industries, capabilities, and learning that would engender," [Jurvetson] said in an e-mail message.

The extreme miniaturization that nanotechnology will deliver could "restructure and digitize the basis of manufacturing, if such that matter becomes code," he said.

Meanwhile, for those who like their goals a little smaller, less hairy, and more unassuming, supporters of Richard (Assemblers Will Never Happen) Smalley are calling for a more modest objective: finding a solution to all of the world's energy problems.

Damn, I love this kind of stuff.

But I have to admit that the idea of a nanotechnology BHAG makes me both exhilarated and a little apprehensive. Yes, we might see the achievement of some major nanotechnology goal in a very short period of time. That's exciting. But what would happen next? That's what makes me apprehensive.

Consider what happened after our success with the Apollo program.

I remember seeing the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey when I was a kid and accepting it as a fairly plausible projection of where we would be in our development of space travel by, say, now. There was no reason no to think so. We had just sent the first man to the moon (not 10 years after the first manned spaceflight), and 2001 was more than 30 years away. At the rate we were going, the space station with its regular Pan Am service from earth, the moon settlements, and the Discovery and its voyage to Jupiter all seemed well within the realm of the achieveable. Apollo 11 was the platform on which it could all be built.

But what happened to that platform? John McKnight, in calling for a national monument for the Apollo project, paints a pretty bleak picture:

Today, Pad 34 is rusting away, marked only by those infamous signs reading "Abandon In Place." Today, the three remaining Saturn V's serve as immense lawn jockeys on NASA land. Today, many Americans believe we never went to the Moon at all[.]

What went wrong?

Was getting to the moon the wrong goal to pursue, or did we just go about it wrong? Maybe we painted ourselves into a corner, making that first moon shot happen within 10 years, adopting strategies such as lunar orbit rendezvous — which is a good idea if you're going to the moon, but isn't a whole lot of help if you want to go anywhere else. Maybe our BHAG failed us.

But I don't think so. I can't make myself agree with those who say that going to the moon was not a good idea. Going to the moon was a great idea. It just should have been followed immediately by the next great idea, and then the next one, and then the next one. Our BHAG didn't fail us; it's just the next BHAG failed to materialize. Maybe Neil Armstrong should have said, "That was one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind. And now, on to Mars."

For some reason, we followed up Apollo with Skylab and the space shuttle, which were not really that inspiring — and our unmanned missions to the planets, which were more inspiring, but were not nearly enough to get us to 2001. As the authors of Built To Last are quick to point out, a single BHAG doth not a visionary company (or space program) make. In responding to the suggestion that maybe Boeing wasn't such a visionary company, that maybe they just got lucky with the 707, Collins and Porras have this to say:

[We] would be inclined to agree, except for one thing: Boeing has a long and consistent history of committing itself to big, audacious challenges. Looking as far back as the early 1930's, we see this bold commitment behavior of Boeing when it set the goal of becoming a major force in the military aircraft market and gambled its future on the P-26 military plane and then "bet the pot" on the B-17 Flying Fortress.

And it doesn't stop there.

In 1965, Boeing made one of the boldest moves in business history: the decision to go forward with the 747 jumbo jet, a decision that nearly killed company. At the decisive board of directors meeting, Boeing Chairman William Allen responded to the comment by a board member that " if the program isn't panning out, we can always back out. "

"Back out?" stiffened Allen. "If the Boeing Company says we will build this airplane, we will build it even if it takes the resources of the entire company!"

I wonder whether this kind of spirit still drives the management of Boeing. I hope so. But it's clear that this is not the kind of thinking that drove the U.S. space program in the post-Apollo era. The management that gave us the space shuttle is more like McDonnell-Douglas and their attachment to propeller-driven aircraft then it is like Boeing and their pursuit first of the jet airliner and then of the jumbo-jet.

We need to think very carefully about the lessons that JFK and Apollo (as well as Boeing and McDonnell-Douglas) can teach us about setting a course for the development of nanotechnology. The first moon shot will remain an inspiration to us, but we should view what happened next as a cautionary tale. Maybe it isn't enough to say "We're going to build an assembler" or "We're going to build a nanoforge" or even "We're going to solve the world's energy problems." Maybe there should be a set of sequential goals, or a commitment to define the next goal while still working towards the current one. Whatever objective the nanotechnology community chooses for itself for the year 2025 (or whenever), they need to remember that that goal represents the beginning of something even more than it does the end.

UPDATE: Dean Esmay reports on a less dramatic development in the nanotechnology field. Working towards these LMUGs ("el-mugs," Little Modest Unassuming Goals) is important, too. Here's my own take on a new development (plus some thoughts on LMUGS). Here's another. Here are some more thoughts on whether solving energy problems is the appropriate BHAG.

Posted by Phil at July 18, 2003 06:59 AM | TrackBack


Originally published July 18, 2003.

Original Comments

I think there's a very important distinction between the 707 and Apollo BHAGs. The 707 was a useful tool that lots of people paid Boeing lots of money for. Apollo was an impressive alpha-male display that increased America's status in the world but returned no direct economic benefit.

Building the 747 was a good follow-on BHAG for Boeing because it would be a more powerful tool and people would pay more money for it.

Going to Mars would do nothing for America--we were already #1 at technology and space travel, what would going to Mars prove? If there was a profit to be made by going there it would be a different matter.

I'm all for picking a nanotech BHAG, but it should be one that will pay back the investment directly.

Posted by: Karl Gallagher at July 31, 2003 06:51 PM

New Old Planet

We can file some of our ponderings about this development under the "what might have been" heading. The actual find: a new planet about 8 billion (appropriate Saganesque emphasis applied) years older than the rest of the planets discovered so far outside of the solar system. It's not only old and huge — about twice the size of Jupiter — it's apparently seen some action.

...it is believed the planet formed about a sunlike star near the edge of the globular cluster. Over time, the star and its planet were gravitationally captured by the pulsar, which was then a neutron star with another star as a companion. As the sunlike star was sucked into the mix, the companion star was ejected from the group. This left the sunlike star and neutron star bound to each other while the planet orbited both.

Eventually, the sunlike star burned up its fuel, bloomed into a red giant and then collapsed into a white dwarf. The neutron star, with its greater density, sucked in material from the collapsing star. This caused the neutron star to start spinning at 100 times a second and emitting radio signals, turning into a pulsar. It was the clocklike pulsing of these radio signals, picked up by radio telescopes, that led to other observations and the discovery of the complex.

The article explains how this planet's very existence calls into question assumptions astronomers have made about when and how planets formed. The current thinking is that planets showed up only after the galaxy had cycled through a generation or two of stars. These later stars (like our sun) contained more heavy materials, such as carbon, that would make it possible for planets to form. So how did this planet manage to materialize so early? I think they'll be scratching their heads over that one for a while.

And while we're asking questions, let's turn to a few that have been raised by the all the other (more than 100) supersized planets that have been discovered outside the solar system. Are they all alone out there? Could they have smaller, earthlike moons or planetary companions? Is it possible that life has formed on any of these hundreds of smaller bodies?

These questions take on a certain poignancy when applied to our new old planet. Here's why:

But when the sunlike star was pulled into orbit of the neutron star, any planets near the sun would have been destroyed. Only the gaseous planet, orbiting some two billion miles out, would have survived.

If there was intelligent life on such a planet, he said, it was destroyed as the parent sun was pulled toward the neutron star.

"They would have seen it coming..."

But could they have done anything about it?

Let's say it was happening to us, at our current level of development. The only scenario that might work would be a desperate, swing-for-the-fences, When Worlds Collide kind of approach. Say we knew we had about ten years: we might be able to slap together a small fleet of manned "space arks" that could get a few thousand of us to the moons of the gas giant. I'm not sure if we'd be safe there, though. And of course, this assumes that the moons are there and that they would have sufficient resources to sustain us.

If we knew we had fifty or a hundred years, we might have a shot at building something that would carry us out of harm's way altogether and into interstellar space. Centuries later, our descendants could conceivably wash up on some hospitable shore. I'm not saying that's easy. How would we go looking for such a "shore?" There are none that we know of. We would just have to aim ourselves at a star that has big planets, and which therefore might have little, earthlike planets, and hope for the best.

I'm going on the assumption that we would want to land on a planet. That isn't necessarily the case. Putting oursleves on a permanent, renewable space station might make more sense in either the 10-year or 100-year scenario.

But what if we had been in that situation in the year 1800? If we were 100 years out from the big smash-up, I wonder whether our astronomy would have been sufficient even to tell us this fact? Presumably, one could just look at the night sky and know something was up. Under those circumstances, it doesn't seem possible that we could have done anything at all.

So here's to the hypotehtical inhabitants of a hypothetical planet that was once a neighbor of our newly discovered (very old) planet. I hope they were farther along than us technologically. I hope they found some way out of their predicament. And if not, I hope they went out with grace and dignity and (wouldn't it be nice) the biggest party their planet ever saw. They may have passed into oblivion, leaving behind no signpost or message in a bottle to declare that once they existed. So I'm glad I thought about them, and I hope anyone who reads this takes a moment to think about them.

There may be no way to remember them, but through us they are not entirely forgotten.


Originally published July 11, 2003.

October 23, 2004


Dork of The Year Award

It couldn't have gone to a more deserving guy.

Congrats, Howard!

October 22, 2004


The Case for Mars Revisited

This is the first in a series of "reprints" of interviews from the Speaking of the Future series. This interview originally ran August 27, 2003. Zubrin's arguments for heavy-lift capability make for an interesting counterpoint to the current excitement about commercial sub-orbital spaceflight. And our subsequent interview with Rand Simberg (which we'll be running in a couple of weeks) makes an interesting counterpoint to Zubrin's arguments.

 

Speaking of the Future with Robert Zubrin

Two items in the news set the stage for todays piece

  • The Gehman Report on the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster has been released, and it is as critical of NASA as many predicted it would be. While the report calls for an overhaul of the culture that drives the space agency, there are those who suggest that fixing NASA wont be enough. Some critics are calling for the end of the space shuttle program or for the abolishment of NASA altogether.
  • Today, Mars and Earth are at their closest point in nearly 60,000 years. What a treat its been, on recent evenings, to stand in my back yard and gaze at this amazing golden light shining in the southern sky. Theres another world, right there, almost close enough to touch. Its a world many of us have thought about, read about, dreamed about all our lives.

The crux of these two news stories is that it may be time to put away childish things where Mars is concerned. Ive always believed that I would live to see the day that human beings set foot on Mars. And Ive always assumed that, when that day comes, it will be NASA that makes it happen. Both that belief and that assumption are now seriously in doubt.

After all, if we were ever going to go to Mars, wouldnt we be doing it right now? Wouldnt this have been the perfect time, with Mars so close?

And how could NASA — an agency apparently still mired in the same cultural bog that gave us the Challenger disaster — possibly get us there?

Enter Robert Zubrin.

While many of us have been reading and dreaming about Mars, Zubrin has been making concrete plans. Hes a former Staff Engineer with Lockheed Martin, and the founder and President of both Pioneer Astronautics and the Mars Society. Zubrin is the author of several books on the future of space exploration and settlement, most notably The Case for Mars: The Plan to Settle the Red Planet and Why We Must.

For years, Zubrin has been making the case that a series of missions to Mars could be deployed quickly and safely, and at a much lower cost than other experts have suggested. These missions would serve as the first steps in the human settlement of the red planet and of the rest of the solar system.

Some will argue that such ideas are pipe dreams, that any attempt by NASA to take on a major exploration initiative would inevitably dead-end just as Apollo did, to the detriment of other, more realistic space inititiatives. That may be true. On the other hand, if abolishing the space shuttle and even NASA itself are going to be on the table, then some other alternatives need to be there as well. And maybe — just maybe — its time to think big again, as we did when the space program was born.

In the wake of the Gehman report, with Mars shining bright in the southern sky, its time Robert Zubrin had a fair hearing.

You've been in the news this week saying, "Next year is a crisis that may well determine whether humans to Mars occurs in our lifetime. This is a unique opportunity, but if we let it slip by, we're going to blow it." Can you please explain what that means? How are we going to blow it?

We have a conjuncture of events that are facing us right now. First of all, NASA is about to be thrown into chaos over the shuttle report, which is going to be deservedly very harsh. It's going to be impossible to suggest that we should keep launching the shuttle orbiters for the next 25 years or so. Also, there's going to be a severe rethinking of NASA's overall priorities. Human space flight is risky. Is it worth taking those risks just to fly ant farms into Earth orbit? Or, if we're going to take those kinds of risks, should we be attempting goals that are worthy of those risks?

You mentioned keeping the shuttle orbiter going for the next 25 years. What's the plan of record for that?

Well, that's the party line prior to the Columbia, actually. And it's ridiculous. You can't maintain these things, they're Carter-Administration-era constructs. They take a hell of a beating every time we fly. Actually, it's somewhat incredible that they have had the good luck they have had up to this point. NASA has already begun to move on this and they've started a program called the orbital space plane.

You see, the shuttle is irrational as a launch vehicle regardless of whether an accident occurs. It's a huge launch vehicle; it has 7 1/2 million tons of thrust — the same amount of thrust the Saturn V, a moon rocket, had at take-off. A Saturn V could lift 140 tons of payload to Earth orbit. The shuttle delivers 20 tons of payload to Earth orbit. It actually delivers 120 tons, but most of that is the inert mass of the shuttle itself. So flying cargo to Earth orbit is like trying to truck cargo in a Winnebago. You've got a powerful engine, but most of it is hauling your house around. So were using the shuttle to transport crew to the space station, basically to perform a taxicab function . It can do it, but it's like using an aircraft carrier to pull water skiers. The vehicle is way oversized for the task.

That's why NASA has come up with a plan to create a thing they called the Orbital Space Plane, which would be, by comparison, a relatively modest capsule or a mini-shuttle.

Is that the ramjet/scramjet?

No. It's either a capsule or a miniature shuttle put on top of an expendable launch vehicle, an Atlas or a Delta, which sends it to orbit. It can have a crew of six people in it. It will have about one-tenth the take-off thrust and one-tenth the cost of the shuttle. That's rational. Fine. Okay.

However, the question then becomes: what do we do with the shuttle launch infrastructure? The shuttle launch infrastructure is more than the orbiter, it's also the external tanks, the solids, the space shuttle main engine, the pads, and all the people and technology that support that. Now if you simply discard that, you're discarding a gigantic asset.

Really, what you want to do with the shuttle launch infrastructure is lose the orbiter and replace it with an upper stage, a rocket stage. And then, all of a sudden, without the burden of this huge mass, this giant Winnebago, it becomes a proper launch vehicle. It provides Saturn V class launch capabilities, which means it could serve as the primary instrument to send humans to the Moon or to Mars. With this approach, we can achieve direct throw, straight from the launch vehicle, just like we had with Apollo. No monkeying around with trying to build gigantic science fiction interplanetary space ships. Just throw the payload to the planet using the booster. Bang! You're there.

NASA can do that, or not do it. They have a choice. They can simply rationalize the shuttle's taxicab function to orbit, to move people back and forth to the space station on a little capsule on top of an Atlas, and lose the shuttle pads, and capabilities. Or they can turn the shuttle into a heavy-lift vehicle. The only way they can rationalize turning the shuttle into a heavy lift vehicle is if they decide were going to go to the Moon or Mars, or both. With people.

Because otherwise we don't need that big lift capability.

Right. NASA has had an academic position for the past 30 years that some day, we'll go back to the Moon. Someday we'll go to Mars. Of course, someday we're going to do it. But now, they've got a choice: they either have to do it now or throw away a $10 billion asset. So it's like a guy who's been hanging around a girl for five years, and she finally turns and says, "Jack, are you going to propose or not?"

Let me give you a choice: shuttle launch infrastructure or Saturn V for going to Mars which one would you pick?

I'd take the Saturn V.

We really lost something, there, didn't we?

Yes, we did.

Now, in risking throwing away the shuttle launch infrastructure, is NASA poised to repeat the mistake they made with the Saturn V after Apollo?

Yes, that's exactly what they did with the Saturn V after Apollo. And it was the most catastrophic mistake that has ever been made in the history of the space program. We destroyed tens of billions of dollars worth of space capability. We set ourselves back a generation. It was like Columbus coming back from the New World and Ferdinand and Isabella saying, "Oh, so what? Burn of the fleet." That's what happened after Apollo, and that's the juncture they're at right and now. So they can choose. Which way are they going to go?

Some of the contractors have a vested interest in how this position works out. There's jobs at stake. There's money at stake, here. Some of the contractors don't see the possibility of getting a moon/Mars program launched. And so what they're trying to do instead is to make the Orbital Space Plane as expensive as possible. It's basically you're the cabdriver, there's one fare at the airport, and you want to show him all the sites in town. They're coming up with designs for this capsule — I cannot believe this, but it's true — with proposed program cost-to-development of $17 billion. That's almost twice what it cost to develop the shuttle, the whole shuttle, its propulsion systems and its external tanks as well as the orbiter. It's three times what we were going to pay to build the Superconducting Supercollider. It's crazy. And yet all it gives you is a capsule, to go back-and-forth to the station. This program should be a $1 billion program, not a $17 billion program. Maybe $1.5 billion. But they're trying to run it up on the meter.

Now if they do that, there will be no money to convert the shuttle, there will be no money to do anything in space, except to build this stupid taxicab. And then people have to start asking the question, "If we're just going back and forth to the space station, why are we going to space all?" Because the only real justification for the space station is to prepare the way for human interplanetary flight. You can't justify that if, at the same time, you're destroying your main asset that would support this requirement.

On the other hand, for many of the contractors, the destruction of the shuttle infrastructure means they're out of business.

They are in crisis, too, and this gives the people who want to launch a planetary initiative a certain constituency right now. All this is happening at a time when five spacecraft are on their way Mars:

There's the Mars Express, the interplanetary probe from the European Union; theres the Beagle 2, the first British interplanetary probe; there are two NASA Mars landers equipped with capable rovers, robotic rovers, which will move kilometers across the Martian surface; and finally theres the Japanese Nozomi orbiter, which has been limping along towards Mars for several years now, but looks like it's finally going to get there in the spring. And then there's two American orbiters in orbit around Mars right now as well. So next spring, there will be seven spacecraft operating on Mars, representing Europe, the United States, Britain, and Japan. There's going to be worldwide excitement about Mars. If the robotic space program is ever going to have the effect of kickstarting a human exploration program, it has to happen next spring. There'll never be another show this big. It's going to be a hard act to follow. I mean, there will be other probes, which can do this and do that, but in terms of public impact, this spring is the climax of the robotic program.

So you've got NASA itself in a crisis, you've got the robots doing everything they can to move things forward, and it's all happening in the high political season in United States. The New Hampshire primary is going on virtually simultaneously with the Rover landings. The timing of these missions and the political climate make this an excellent opportunity to generate interest in a humans-to-Mars program among the American public.

Let me ask about something else that I think is going to attract a lot of attention towards the end of this year. I'd like to know what your views on it are. That is the X Prize. Will it generate interest not only in getting people into orbit, but in doing it in something other than a make-it-as-expensive-as-we-can kind of approach?

A little. But the X Prize, if someone does win it, is a sub-orbital junket on a rocket. It's not the same as planetary exploration. It's not exploration at all.

And it doesn't help to get us there?

Well, you know, it's giving some publicity to small launch vehicle companies that need some publicity and so, by running it as a race, you can generate public attention and perhaps some investment, but the scale of these operations are very small compared to what is needed to open the solar system for humanity. And that's what we're really doing now. So hats off to the X Prize. And hats off to anyone who wins it . But it's a peripheral element of the situation from where I stand.

The X Prize approach of doing it more-or-less on the cheap reminded me a lot of The Case for Mars.

That's true. But you know, you don't have to do things on the cheap if you're the United States. You just have to do them. The incredible waste that we've had in our space program is not a function of particular operations being expensive. It's a function of the fact that the space program as whole has no plan. They're literally spending as much money per year right now as we spent on average during the Apollo period, and accomplishing nothing. Nothing.

The average NASA budget, taken from 1961 when Kennedy made his speech, to 1973 when we had the close-down of the Apollo and Skylab missions was $17 billion per year in today's money, inflation-adjusted. NASA's budget this year is $16 billion. We're within six or seven percent of Apollo-level funding, and we're not accomplishing anything. We spent $150 billion on NASA in the 1990's, and we're not one step closer to the Moon or Mars today than we were in 1990. That is because they have no plan. So they launch a series of simultaneous programs. They start them; they stop them. None of them ever produces anything, with the exception of the robotic probes. The robotic probes are good. A few elements have advanced since 1990. We've got a bit more scientific knowledge about Mars from the Mars Global surveyor probe. Of the $150 billion, that was $150 million. Just one-tenth of 1 percent of the money was usefully spent.

I'll just give you one example. In the 1960's we had Apollo. We knew where we going. We're going to the Moon, thanks to Kennedy, and we had a deadline.

Within this decade.

Within