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This show was a transhumanist round table with Tyler Emerson, PJ Manney, Phil Bowermaster and Stephen Gordon.

They discussed the meaning of transhumanism, what tranhumanists hope to accomplish, and the risks of a transhuman future.
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The topics:
- Our guests this week were PJ Manney and Tyler Emerson:
- What is transhumanism?
- We all agreed that we need more kids interested in science. Some good programs that are already working toward this goal are:
- Knowledge Context, and
- FIRST. FIRST stands for For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology.
- Knowledge Context, and
- We mentioned the following books:
- PJ mentioned the Flynn Effect.
- Dean Kamen is trying to bring an invention to market that would produce clean drinking water for the poorest people in the world. The problem - he's having trouble getting investors.
- The panel talked about blade runner Oscar Pistorius as an example of a person who can function better than normal human. Check out the video of this runner at the link.
- The panel agreed that the Transhumanist vision is both individual and global. Transhumanists want to overcome individual limitations - in longevity, health, physical strength, and intelligence. But transhumanists also want to see the world advance societally. The reduction of world-wide poverty, disease, and violence is a large part of this vision.
- The panel talked about how they'd like the world to change. Phil would like to see poverty, at least as we define it now, eliminated. Stephen mentioned world peace. Maybe we're seeing the beginnings of that already.
- One development this week that had the entire round table excited was Craig Venter's completion of an artificial genome. Now that we can write the language of life, many of the visions of transhumanists can be realized.
- In response to Craig Venter's success, Tyler mentioned a landmark conference held by Edge.org entitled, "Life: What a Concept." Here's a quote from Freeman Dyson at that conference:
Now, after three billion years, the Darwinian interlude is over. It was an interlude between two periods of horizontal gene transfer. The epoch of Darwinian evolution based on competition between species ended about ten thousand years ago, when a single species, Homo sapiens, began to dominate and reorganize the biosphere. Since that time, cultural evolution has replaced biological evolution as the main driving force of change. Cultural evolution is not Darwinian. Cultures spread by horizontal transfer of ideas more than by genetic inheritance. Cultural evolution is running a thousand times faster than Darwinian evolution, taking us into a new era of cultural interdependence which we call globalization.
Our front bumper is a sample of Marginal Prophets' "The Difficult Song."
Our exit music this week is from The Gas House Gorillas. The song is "Burglar In The House Of Love."
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Phil and Stephen:
I sent Tyler an email clearing up what I meant to say during the chat. I'm going to summarize it here if I may.
I couldn't agree more with your response, but my point was misunderstood. I said that I try not to imagine radical improvements as being in my personal future because I think it helps me to think more clearly about what is best for the human future collectively, or to keep my eye on the ball, if you will. I think that thoughts along the lines, "Cool! I'm going to live to be a thousand." can cloud one's judgment as we try to create the best possible outcomes. Your point about children dying from water shortages was well taken. This and other such issues would be immensely important even if things like radical life extension and strong ai will not come to pass in our lifetimes. On the other hand, I believe it is prudent that we treat risks as though they are imminent. The stakes are so high that they are worth our concern and talents regardless. Besides, benefits from technological progress will not become benefits without good planning. I also think it's not healthy for us to only value our lives under the assumption that they will be very long. I'll try to live a worthwhile life whether it last 25 or a google years. Maybe this is like the concern a parent would show for their child's future. If things go very well, decades from now I may not bear much resemblence to my current state anyway. I would not insist that anyone else follow this way of thinking, but I find it is a strategy for being more observer-independent that works for me.
Posted by: Matt Duing
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January 28, 2008 03:41 AM
Matt:
Thanks for clearing that up.
Sorry I misinterpreted your comment. But Tyler ran with it and used my misunderstanding as a springboard to talk about how to get involved.
So, I guess, thanks for being misunderstood.
:-)
Posted by: Stephen Gordon
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January 28, 2008 08:15 AM
Anytime. :-)
Posted by: Matt Duing
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January 28, 2008 02:27 PM
I wanted to research this subject and write a paper. Your post what a thousand words would not. Nice job.
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