Posted by Stephen Gordon on May 9, 2007 05:38 AM|Permalink
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Yeah, well when these two met in real life, the only thing that kept Supes from killing Spidey outright was some kind of Red-Sun field that Luthor sprayed Spider-man with before the fight.
It's interesting that, per Spidey's comments, what's happening in the movies now is similar to what happened with the comics earlier. DC pretty much invents the genre and then gets blown out of the water. This spurs DC to come back and do things differently.
Watched that and two others at YT. Comedy is hard- these are pretty good.
But Batman is right- he's just a guy. A very rich guy- but he's not an alien from another planet. No radioactive spider bite. No other wacky lab event gone 'wrong' but impossible to repeat. No mutant with powers- no powers. Just issues, money to deal with them in his chosen way and some discipline.
Movie and comic book quality aside (Where's my Mr. X movie?) - Batman is the hero worthy of the name. The rest are metaphors. Flimsy science fiction ideas way short on science that mislead us into looking for solutions in the wrong place.
Superman- an alien from space who came from a dying planet to fight for truth, justce and the American way.
X-Men- mutations generally result in nonviable offspring. Instead these get complimentary powers, some more useful than others.
Spiderman (F4, Hulk,Silver Surfer etc) and on and on- impossible to repeat experiemnts or environmental conditions resulting in super powers. Or aliens from space.
IronMan is the only other superhero who comes close to Batman in that he's just a guy. But he's less sympathetic- drunk and more or less unfocused after the fall of the soviet union and general discreditation of communism. And perhaps not quite super enough to be a superhero.
Vision is representative - and perhaps a lone representative- of the only other interesting superhero type: an android built by a robot. But as for hero status- it's never clear what values drive the vision, other than his periodic affection for Scarlet Witch. He just is. And, like Iron Man, it's while ot's clear he has power, he may not actually rise to superhero status.
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Yeah, well when these two met in real life, the only thing that kept Supes from killing Spidey outright was some kind of Red-Sun field that Luthor sprayed Spider-man with before the fight.
It's interesting that, per Spidey's comments, what's happening in the movies now is similar to what happened with the comics earlier. DC pretty much invents the genre and then gets blown out of the water. This spurs DC to come back and do things differently.
The story continues...
Posted by: Phil Bowermaster
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May 9, 2007 01:05 PM
Watched that and two others at YT. Comedy is hard- these are pretty good.
But Batman is right- he's just a guy. A very rich guy- but he's not an alien from another planet. No radioactive spider bite. No other wacky lab event gone 'wrong' but impossible to repeat. No mutant with powers- no powers. Just issues, money to deal with them in his chosen way and some discipline.
Movie and comic book quality aside (Where's my Mr. X movie?) - Batman is the hero worthy of the name. The rest are metaphors. Flimsy science fiction ideas way short on science that mislead us into looking for solutions in the wrong place.
Superman- an alien from space who came from a dying planet to fight for truth, justce and the American way.
X-Men- mutations generally result in nonviable offspring. Instead these get complimentary powers, some more useful than others.
Spiderman (F4, Hulk,Silver Surfer etc) and on and on- impossible to repeat experiemnts or environmental conditions resulting in super powers. Or aliens from space.
IronMan is the only other superhero who comes close to Batman in that he's just a guy. But he's less sympathetic- drunk and more or less unfocused after the fall of the soviet union and general discreditation of communism. And perhaps not quite super enough to be a superhero.
Vision is representative - and perhaps a lone representative- of the only other interesting superhero type: an android built by a robot. But as for hero status- it's never clear what values drive the vision, other than his periodic affection for Scarlet Witch. He just is. And, like Iron Man, it's while ot's clear he has power, he may not actually rise to superhero status.
Posted by: MDarling
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May 14, 2007 02:03 PM