Skype Sucks
Got this charmer of an e-mail today:
Hello bowermaster,
We hate to bring bad news but there's no nice way to say it - your Skype Credit has expired. This means that all your credit you had at your account is now gone.
== What is Skype Credit expiration policy? ==
We've tried to make our expiration policy as user friendly as possible. You just have to place one call every 6 months to keep your credit. Skype Credit expires 180 days after your last purchase or SkypeOut call. Extending the period is as simple as doing short call. This automatically extends the period for another 180 days.
== Why does Skype Credit expire? ==
There are several reasons why Skype expires Skype Credit that hasn't been used for 180 days - we have to comply with normal accounting rules and cannot keep "dead" accounts in our databases forever.
You can view your account history - including your Skype Credit expiry date - on http://www.skype.com/go/myaccount and get more information about our expiration policy here: http://www.skype.com/go/help.faq.expirationpolicy
Please note that after each purchase, it can take up to 10 days for the expiry date in Your Account to refresh.
== Getting help for Skype ==
While you cannot reply to this email directly, you can contact us through our Help section at www.skype.com/help for assistance or to correct any errors. You can also visit our forums at www.skype.com/go/forum.
Thank you very for much for using Skype and best regards,
The people at Skype
I wasn't aware that normal accounting procedures required taking someone's money away and giving nothing in return. That's very interesting...and less than thoroughly convincing. I've been on Sklype several times over the past six months, but I guess I never initiated the call. And now I'm happy to report that I don't intend ever to initiate another Skype call.
Are there any alternatives?
UPDATE: In the comments, a Skype fan explains that -- although the e-mail clearly states that I lost my credits because I didn't make any calls -- apparently I could have been initiating calls in North America and still have lost my credits, because those calls are now free. It seems that my options were as follows:
1. Make international Skypeout calls or send SMS's
2. Purchase ringtones (Dang, sorry I blew my chance on that one. Talk about value for money!)
3. Let Skype have my money
I chose option three by default. You live, you learn.


Comments
Vonage works reasonably well. $24.95 (or so) a month, unlimited calls anywhere in the U.S., Canada, and an expanding list of other places.
-Jim
Posted by: Jim Strickland
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October 2, 2006 11:53 PM
The Skype policy is clearly stated in black and white for those who will read it and heed it. No secret, no mystery. Sad to suggest though, that many in the US will lose their credits purchased months ago before the Free SkypeOut period for the USA and Canada was launched. All SkypeOut calls since the launch have been free and credits unused sit and will rot except spent in some other way: by a SkypeOut to a land far away or by purchasing a Ringtone or by trying out the new SMS. Ringtones $1.20, SMS $0.112, fools who disregard terms of service/policy "priceless"
Posted by: Huffnhustle
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October 3, 2006 04:26 AM
Wow, Huffnhustle, you really showed me. Indeed, what I fool I am...any policy that is printed in black and white is clearly a good and moral thing, and anyone failing to take heed is clearly a fool. How nice for Skype that they're able to make a handy profit raking money off fools like me, with the added benefit that stalwarts such as yourself have their back.
Posted by: Phil Bowermaster
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October 3, 2006 06:58 AM
Well Phil, you may have chosen option 3... however, they will probably end up losing more than that just in lost business. It only takes a few people reading this blog post and deciding to go with Vonage instead. Of course you yourself will likely go with a competitor as well. Service companies disregard customer service at their peril.
And this six-month rule is just stupid, regardless of what huffnhustle said. What kind of company doesn't keep records for seven years? It's a few bytes, the cost of keeping a customer is effectively zero. The cost of losing a customer and other potential customers through word of mouth is orders of magnitude greater.
Posted by: Ed Minchau
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October 3, 2006 09:49 AM
Phones are so twentieth century.
I still have trouble processing the fact that Vonage costs $25 a month....for crying out loud, one can get decent cell service for not much more!
Posted by: D. Vision
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October 3, 2006 11:53 AM
Does that decent cell service give you unlimited free long distance calling throughout North America?
Posted by: Ed Minchau
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October 3, 2006 02:36 PM
Very, very close, actually. Communication services are one of the few heavily regulated industries where there's actually been real progress in both services and prices in the past decade. For $40/mo, you can get a heck of a cell phone plan (I have 1000 anytime and unlimited night/weekend, and have never come close to running over), and of course the mobility of a cell phone is an added fillip that a landline can't match.
It will be interesting to see how the market reacts to this. If this is something Skype only recently started doing, then it wouldn't be too surprising to see a bit of an act of contrition from them in the coming weeks. If this is something that has actually been going on for a while now, however, and Phil just now found out about, then it's likely the smart money in the market has already factored in the effects of that business practice. (Doesn't change the fact that it's pretty darn annoying, of course.)
Posted by: Gramarye
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October 4, 2006 07:40 AM
Try freeskypecredits.com. They also give away free Skype Credits at registration.
http://freeskypecredits.com
Posted by: cabbar
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July 10, 2007 07:07 PM
Try freeskypecredits.com. They also give away free Skype Credits at registration.
http://freeskypecredits.com
Posted by: cabbar
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July 10, 2007 07:09 PM
Good to see the Skype apologists out in force.
What Skype is doing by revoking credit is tantamount to theft in my opinion; there is no technical reason why they would have to revoke your credit. This is simply a ploy to rip people off.
I have started investigating the possibility of taking legal action against Skype; it may only be a few dollars but someone needs to teach these chumps a lesson.
Posted by: Spaulding Smails | September 5, 2008 12:48 AM
I found this discussion by Googling "skype sucks". This is a search tactic I use when considering a service, and it hasn't yet failed to turn up discussions which enlighten and aid my decision making process. One thing that I have learned so far which has discouraged me form using Skype is that it is owned by ebay. Ebay is, in my opinion, the single most arrogant, user unfriendly corporation I have used.
This thread is helping me come to a decision of whether or not to use Skype. I'm leaning toward eliminating Skype as a possible internet phone service for my business use.
Posted by: EE Roberts | September 22, 2008 06:26 AM
i use vonage to call a long list of friends in UK and Ireland. i use it like 2 hours or more everyday. Best part - For FREE!
As for Skype, i paid $10 to make some calls (to pakistan-not in list of vonage free calling) - and my account has yet to show that balance after 5 days!
Skype DOES Suck!
Posted by: khan | October 4, 2008 07:52 PM
Skype's explanation that they can not hold on to 'dead accounts' doesn't make any sense at all.
the SEC requires data to be stored for at least seven years before it can be deleted.
so if they have to hold onto your records for that long they may as well keep your account open.
Posted by: jfever | October 23, 2008 03:51 PM
The fact that they want to expire credit that hasn't been used is perfectly fine with me...just as long as they return the monetary balance to the customer. Otherwise that is theft in my opinion. Here in New York, companies used to do that with gift cards and charge you a fee if you didn't use your card in a certain amount of time. Yeah, it was laid out in black and white. But the Attorney General's office said that's still illegal, no matter what the disclaimer says. If you pay money for a service, you get that service or you get your money back.
Posted by: lucky | November 1, 2008 08:48 AM